goalsides: (So what's wrong)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
i'm trying to put together the information we have
buy documents from riku, whatever
but the root cause right now is just "jilted producers with a cancelled tv show" and that doesn't sound right
i want to find the root cause
i just also want to know if those people will also be okay when we do find it, especially since people can apparently be punished for us interfering too much
inaccordant: (8. hydrangea)

[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-12 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you know what both groups received on Thursday? I've only seen one so far.
It may help if things proceed as a group. It was likely a simple enough matter to punish Otome for a transgression, but I doubt they can easily do the same for all of us at once. Not because anything stops them physically, but because it probably doesn't serve any purpose for all of us to be dead.
goalsides: (With taking the back streets?)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-12 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
i only saw half from the group that went to the moon (maya, nier, leo, tsuyukusa)
did you see the other half or the same half?
i agree though
a group would be best but i don't know how to make people trust each other enough to do that
...do you think otome-san was punished because she told all of us in a group?
maybe if she or the others told us one at a time and we started sharing into that way, or shoving papers in lockers like other people are doing, that would work?
inaccordant: (4. light ahead)

[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-12 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw Maya's.
That'd only work if we were positive that this happened because she told too many at once. In the case that it was because the world hadn't even been aware of her motivations until then, then I suspect that having the info spread like that would still incite a similar response.
goalsides: (Three days since the living room)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-12 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
if i get the other half anytime soon i'll shove a note in your locker
but okay, like...the problem we're running into then is we really don't even have a way to test it without possibly killing somebody else
otome-san seemed to imply she knew there would be a punishment if she didn't go around killing people
but the punishment for saying something surprised her too
...if you have any idea on how to make the world stop listening in and be sentient, i'm open to them
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-12 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have any.
So, I would say that the solution isn't to test anything out, but to decide when we're confident that we have what we need to win and have resolved ourselves to face any consequences that may occur.
goalsides: (But it'll still be two days)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
at this rate, the only thing i can even be confident in is the idea that the dead will be able to grab something from the administration office
and maybe let us in
if they're the only ones who can change our files or whatever...
...i mean. what the hell are we doing here?
inaccordant: (4. light ahead)

[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-12 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be best not to limit yourself to major assumptions like that just yet.
As soon as you decide that something can only be done by someone else, you close your eyes to other possibilities.
goalsides: (How can I help it)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
...i know you're right.
i'm trying to do everything i can but it just feels like we keep crashing right into problems with no solutions yet
but...the only thing i'm certain of right now is that it's us against this world
so we need to find out what this world wants from us
...has anyone told you about the circumstances with sieghart's murder? like what the culprit believed that drove them to killing him
inaccordant: (8. hydrangea)

[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-12 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you been told something?
goalsides: (You looked at me)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
i have no idea who killed him
just that they woke up on thursday and felt like they had to kill sieghart specifically in order to fix this world
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-13 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
What do you think about it?
goalsides: (3 days since the living room)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-13 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
i think it feels a little familiar
there are some entities that want to try to protect their worlds and will do anything for the sake of "harmony"
i don't know why we're here. i'm still trying to understand that
but i'm also trying to decide if we were brought here to combat something else in this world or what
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-13 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone wants to protect something. It's just a matter of what that is, and what it conflicts with.
goalsides: (If I'm breaking your heart)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-13 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
generally speaking or speaking from experience now hugo?

[he does remember that memory and the things he's been told.]
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-13 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to have experience to be aware of that.
goalsides: (That vertigo is gonna grow)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-13 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
maybe not, but it's another thing riku and i were thinking of
that whatever is waiting for us is a combination of all of the things from our worlds that would fight against us
goalsides: (And I'll never get bored)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-13 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
well for one thing some of the field trips people have gone on are based on memories of people here
one group went to ichiro's world
another went to beau caleb and molly's
and we went to riku's
it wouldn't be that surprising if it was something like that
inaccordant: (12. neutral)

[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-14 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe. Though it also sounds like it's only "some", so it might not be an actual pattern.
goalsides: (Make you hang around)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-14 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
how often do you think something should happen to be considered a pattern to look into?
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-14 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You can look into it regardless of it's a pattern or not, but I probably wouldn't consider it the likely scenario until it happens the majority of the time.
goalsides: (You'll have to sign a waiver)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-14 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
the only thing that happens the majority of the time is people leaving in the first place. it's every week now, sometimes multiple groups, and always on thursdays
it's like...i don't know
like this place is testing to see how well we'd be able to integrate
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[personal profile] inaccordant 2021-07-14 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also worth considering that not everything is necessarily caused by the same source.
goalsides: ('til I say I'm sorry)

[personal profile] goalsides 2021-07-14 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
which goes back to the theory that whatever's causing this is a combination of all of our worlds, our memories, and our enemies
...i think the best thing i can do right now is find a way to ask people like otome-san what they know about this world and why it's so dangerous
right?

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