Well, if you're into murder mysteries, there's not much else on the same level. I'm sure the viewers want to know who will pick who at the date auction, but it isn't the same.
The extra credits may show what they want? Some are intended to cause us to harm one another, but some are funny, or romantic?
It's weird, isn't it? Yamato and I talked about it... what was going on, I mean. I told him some things didn't seem to make a lot of sense. The weird extra credits, the trials, things like that.
It doesn't... fit? With... what this place seems to try to be. Right?
A school where a lot of entertaining drama happens? No, not really. I saw the scripts, with places to fill in names, but. . . trials and the things we are supposed to do there don't fit.
She is trying to save them from this world. Them meaning, presumably, the people she is killing? But I wasn't certain of that.
I don't think she can mean that death is literally saving someone, or what happened to Adora would not have troubled her so much. But they must be trying to accomplish something that helps us.
I think even if killing to save someone seemed good to her, she would be upset if something like that happened to Adora. Especially if she didn't realize it would be so random or terrible.
When it's something out of her control.
Even thinking murder will save them... who really wants to kill children, or people they love? Wouldn't you hold off as long as you could, too?
[Yeah, he has a strong visceral reaction to the last bit. Maybe someone needed to say it to him, but it makes him feel a little inhuman all the same. Sometimes you already know how possible it is to kill the people you love.]
. . . Well. If it were me, if it was a matter of killing every person here to save them in the end, I would start with the young ones who don't deserve to witness these things. I would leave Beauregard and Mollymauk, but only because they can handle it and I would need them in order to get away with it.
But I am a fucked up individual, and maybe few others would see it that way. In which case it was cruel to give these duties to people with kinder hearts when people like me are around.
It's fine. Caleb's reasoning makes Riku's lips thin into a frown. Not because he disagrees, but because it makes sense.]
It's... the lesser of two evils, but I'd hate to have to choose evil at all.
With how horrified everyone was about even finding out at all before... they would be angrier if it had been kids. Can you really get rid of kids, Caleb, and keep going...?
[This isn't his favorite conversation in the world to be having with this emo but very sensitive teen, but. . . ]
I think so. If it was for that reason. You never know what you're really capable of until you try. [It sounds like that was almost meant to be a joke, but a slightly hysterical one. He also thought he could kill his parents, but he couldn't. But this version of him, the one who is already broken but trying to power through it. . . possibly.]
I would struggle with this for other reasons. It would be hard for me to get past the fear that my belief these actions would save people wasn't manipulation of my mind. Especially knowing others had been manipulated in this way.
[Well, now it's his turn to have a visceral reaction. For some reason, he sort of idly squeezes the place over his heart, but then winces and puts his hand down.
Maybe someone just needed to say that to him.]
You think they're being manipulated, and it's not true.
[Not a question exactly. Oh boy. It's not that he didn't also think that, too. But it's, unfortunately, familiar.]
[Murder is bad, that's something that isn't very controversial, but sometimes people have to die.]
If it's true, I would even call it noble. To let themselves suffer alone and to risk their lives to save all of us. The problem is, I don't know whether or not to believe it.
[His brows pinch at that. He finally does lift his head to look Caleb in the face.]
Thinking that way will get you into trouble later. Excusing it. Killing is never good, or noble, but sometimes, it's necessary. Even with no other option. Even defeating someone evil. They should be stopped, sure, but I won't ever say it's noble. Sorry.
[Sorry for being an argumentative Disney brat.]
If it wasn't true, I don't think Adora would be gone. So... I'm going to believe it's true until I find out for sure it isn't.
[He doesn't mind the argumentativeness. He disagrees, but he has respect for people who will stand up for their beliefs. On the other hand, he doesn't really see the point in arguing about the ethics of murder with a sensitive hot topic teen.]
. . . Alright. Then instead, I will say that I would find it worthy of forgiveness.
You are right, though. If it was only a manipulation, there would have been no need to punish her. So. . . what, then? Do we all need to die to get over there?
I suppose the question for me is whether we ought to be trying to stop them. There are people who will want to kill Otome. And. . . Luxanna, as well, considering she is suspected to be in their number.
I don't want that, but I don't know how to. . . justify to someone, that we will leave alone people who may turn around and kill us the next week.
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So how are we going to give it murder mysteries without the murder?
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Perhaps trying to solve something else? It would have to be equally compelling, and it is hard to fathom what that would be.
[Who's banging! That's my suggestion. Not Caleb's.]
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PLEASE SOLVE SPICY DRAMA.]
Alright. Something else then... Do you think it'll be enough? On the same level as whatever... the script gets from murders.
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The extra credits may show what they want? Some are intended to cause us to harm one another, but some are funny, or romantic?
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It doesn't... fit? With... what this place seems to try to be. Right?
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What about what Otome said? About why.
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I don't think she can mean that death is literally saving someone, or what happened to Adora would not have troubled her so much. But they must be trying to accomplish something that helps us.
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When it's something out of her control.
Even thinking murder will save them... who really wants to kill children, or people they love? Wouldn't you hold off as long as you could, too?
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. . . Well. If it were me, if it was a matter of killing every person here to save them in the end, I would start with the young ones who don't deserve to witness these things. I would leave Beauregard and Mollymauk, but only because they can handle it and I would need them in order to get away with it.
But I am a fucked up individual, and maybe few others would see it that way. In which case it was cruel to give these duties to people with kinder hearts when people like me are around.
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It's fine. Caleb's reasoning makes Riku's lips thin into a frown. Not because he disagrees, but because it makes sense.]
It's... the lesser of two evils, but I'd hate to have to choose evil at all.
With how horrified everyone was about even finding out at all before... they would be angrier if it had been kids. Can you really get rid of kids, Caleb, and keep going...?
[He sounds almost worried.]
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I think so. If it was for that reason. You never know what you're really capable of until you try. [It sounds like that was almost meant to be a joke, but a slightly hysterical one. He also thought he could kill his parents, but he couldn't. But this version of him, the one who is already broken but trying to power through it. . . possibly.]
I would struggle with this for other reasons. It would be hard for me to get past the fear that my belief these actions would save people wasn't manipulation of my mind. Especially knowing others had been manipulated in this way.
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Maybe someone just needed to say that to him.]
You think they're being manipulated, and it's not true.
[Not a question exactly. Oh boy. It's not that he didn't also think that, too. But it's, unfortunately, familiar.]
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. . . I didn't say that. I meant, if I were in their shoes, I wouldn't know how to trust myself.
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You're right.
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...I want to believe. I want to believe they wouldn't do this without a good reason.
If you can even call this reason "good."
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[Murder is bad, that's something that isn't very controversial, but sometimes people have to die.]
If it's true, I would even call it noble. To let themselves suffer alone and to risk their lives to save all of us. The problem is, I don't know whether or not to believe it.
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Thinking that way will get you into trouble later. Excusing it. Killing is never good, or noble, but sometimes, it's necessary. Even with no other option. Even defeating someone evil. They should be stopped, sure, but I won't ever say it's noble. Sorry.
[Sorry for being an argumentative Disney brat.]
If it wasn't true, I don't think Adora would be gone. So... I'm going to believe it's true until I find out for sure it isn't.
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. . . Alright. Then instead, I will say that I would find it worthy of forgiveness.
You are right, though. If it was only a manipulation, there would have been no need to punish her. So. . . what, then? Do we all need to die to get over there?
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...I can accept that.
[Maybe it has something to do with forgiveness.]
I don't know... I get the feeling everyone in the daycare is trying to get back here, Principal Bear included.
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I don't want that, but I don't know how to. . . justify to someone, that we will leave alone people who may turn around and kill us the next week.
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I don't know if there's anything we can do about that. But if you think you might know who will go after her... She could be ready and fight back.
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[But that doesn't mean everyone; there are people he doesn't really talk to.]
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